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Hello OVA

my name is Jamilism and I am very excited to be here on this forum. I was down in Toronto 3 weeks back and was taken to a game by a friend. Loved the experience. I was instructed to join ASC and get age verified. Found out the local rep mentioned on the forum had retired and suggested me to join here.

Looking to get age verified to view the classified and retailers. Also I am interested to know what facilities and fields we have here and speak to someone one on one about getting rifle and gear.

I was introduced to a few brands but seemed the stored only recommended me to what they had in stock. So a few pointers on local stores and gun type would be appreciated.

Thanks again for your future replies.
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Hey welcome! There's no need to get age verified on this forum.

We are very lucky in this area to have so many local fields and stores to support us.

Stores:
JT's
Paintball plus
OPS
upper Canada tactical (online but very supportive of our community.

Fields:
Red devils
Ohp
Petawawa airsoft
Stars
Stingers (indoor brockville)
Siloki (indoor Smith falls)

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Hey there Jamilism, welcome to the forum.

To elaborate on what azombie8mybaby said, you don't need to be age verified to look at the local classifieds on this forum but you would if you want to look at classifieds on Airsoft Canada (ASC). Our age verifier who was in Ottawa (testtube) is no longer doing AVs for ASC. According to ASC's Ottawa Area AV section it denotes that you can contact :
Name: Mario
ASCName: marac
Location: Petawawa
I'm looking in to having another ASC age verifier in Ottawa but we are at the mercy of ASC to pick AVs for the area.

In the meantime please enjoy these forums. We also have a Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/OttawaValleyAirsoft/ You'll find lots of places on either here or the group to ask about gear and guns. Take a look at previous discussions for ideas as well.

Make sure you check the events section for organized games occurring in the area. You can also visit all the fields for walkon games when they are open if no scheduled event is running.
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Thanks for the reply. Awesome stuff.

I figured that we don't need to be age verified here on the forum but if I still want to see the vendors listed on ASC I need that. I believe Greg / Chef is the one to speak to get it verified.

I was wondering if I can speak to someone one on one perhaps an ex noob now a frequent player or anyone who has been playing here in Ottawa for some time. The stores I visited in Toronto were helpful. They however always recommended me to get stuff that they had in stock or local. I wanted to speak to someone who played the game - went through gears and can make recommendation on my purchase based on need and games played.

I have no probs conversing through posts but I feel the human factor is always more informative.

Which is the best store to get gear and rifles here in Ottawa ? That might be a loaded questions but I do want to go and check out rifles before I commit to something. I want to make sure I end up with something which wont break eventually out of the box and also acquire the basic stuff required to play in Ottawa.

Thanks again for your valuable time !
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(09-14-2016 11:07 AM)Jamilism Wrote:  I believe Greg / Chef is the one to speak to get it verified.
Chef no longer does AV for ASC either, he no longer plays airsoft either Sad You will need to reach out Mario or the ontario ASC rep.

(09-14-2016 11:07 AM)Jamilism Wrote:  I was wondering if I can speak to someone one on one perhaps an ex noob now a frequent player or anyone who has been playing here in Ottawa for some time. The stores I visited in Toronto were helpful. They however always recommended me to get stuff that they had in stock or local. I wanted to speak to someone who played the game - went through gears and can make recommendation on my purchase based on need and games played.

Got to a game day at any field. There's lots of vets. Big games in the events section will be crawling with them. Of course if anyone wants to reach out to you directly that's cool too. There are lots of posts on gear recommendation if you do read up on it before you move to questions in person.

(09-14-2016 11:07 AM)Jamilism Wrote:  I have no probs conversing through posts but I feel the human factor is always more informative.

Understandable!

(09-14-2016 11:07 AM)Jamilism Wrote:  Which is the best store to get gear and rifles here in Ottawa ? That might be a loaded questions but I do want to go and check out rifles before I commit to something. I want to make sure I end up with something which wont break eventually out of the box and also acquire the basic stuff required to play in Ottawa.

Ottawa has 3 stores in different areas:
JTs in the West end
Fighter Systems in Gatineau
Paintball plus in the East end.

Venturing out further there's:
OPS in smith's falls
Upper Canada Tactical in storefront at Stingers paintball in Brockville.

I don't think you'll find an answer as to what is the best store as all offer something different. I recommend try one and move on if you want something else. Hope that helps, cheers!
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"Chef no longer does AV for ASC either, he no longer plays airsoft either Sad You will need to reach out Mario or the ontario ASC rep. -- That is a bummer ! Well back to the old drawing board Smile"

"Got to a game day at any field. There's lots of vets. Big games in the events section will be crawling with them. Of course if anyone wants to reach out to you directly that's cool too. There are lots of posts on gear recommendation if you do read up on it before you move to questions in person." -- I had the intentions to do a walk in - but on game day at the Toronto location which was filled with vets - I found them to be occupied with players and team members rather than a pondering noob. I actually approached a few (must have looked like a tard) and asked a few questions and they did answer them but I felt that answers were half hearted. It could be they were getting ready for a game and was not ready to chat. Plus I would not feel right doing the same before any game because I am sure other things are rushing through their mind. Sure you will get direct and short answers but one on one is always best. It might be me but more information can be gathered in a short time when the person answering is not involved or called upon from time to time.

So far from my 'research' from ASC and the airsoftdepot, I found out that guns that are cheaper will break faster than others and you would need to invest later on upgrades not limited to hop ups or barrels. I don't have a budget set for the whole kit and at the same time I don't have a fat wallet ( a federal employee only makes so much ) But I truly believe you get what you pay for. G&P / G&G and the famous VFC has been mentioned repeated times. While VFC seems to be a better build out of the box compared to the others - there are talks about upgrades for the future.

then comes gear - which is another boat of questions.

Marshall - I want to thank you for all the information you have given. I might have to head out to the local shops to get a feel for what people are getting rifles and gear wise. I have saved up a bit so that when I started researching I don't have to wait too long to acquire.

If others have anything worthwhile to add - please chime in. This is an exciting sport and it took me 15 mins of gameplay to appreciate it.

Long live Airsoft
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the AV process is a bit antiquated, with so many registered commercial vendors, it's no longer hard to get your hands on the goods needed to play. ASC is still a valuable resource and some deals can be had in the used sections, but I find for the most part the value isn't there. I've bought quite a number of used guns off the asc classifieds and have been underwhelmed with money spent vs value of what was received. It's extremely difficult to get value when you don't have the exact history of the gun or you don't know the people selling. Local forums are much better because you can see the gun at a field before you buy it.

Next time you're in toronto there are several places to get AVed for asc.

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Thanks lurkinKnight

I am not going to Toronto anytime soon and I have read several posts where they value of the used guns even after mods and upgrades did not make sense (to each their own). While I am no way an expert or remotely close to that - I do believe that new vs. modded and upgraded by a reputed gun doctor has value.

Having said that - anyone in Ottawa sporting the VFC VR16 line M4 or M16. I don't know why but I have taken a strong liking for the company, its reputation and the guns they have. My friend had advised me to go out a play a game using the rental option and check out the other guns in stock but something tells me I will end up with a VFC.

Furthermore, I can see myself being a recon guy as opposed to the go out and kill kinda mentality. One of the primary reason for opting airsoft was because I wanted to learn experience and develop on what people do on recon mission as 2nd or 3rd tier support. I don't want to be the person who gets the flag and be champed as the guy who got the glory but I want to play the role as support. I feel this will give me more experience on the field and build my strength.

I played paintball briefly (mostly with friends at work - with house rules). Looking to be part of something more disciplined and planned.

Once again - If anyone has spare time to chat with a noob ... shout back. You can talk to me airsoft for hours and I wont stop you for a second Smile
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vfc is very consistent in their casting of gearbox shells and receivers from one batch to the next. Their gearboxes ake off the shelf parts very well with very few quirks. Every brand has quirks or issues to work around, but vfcs are much easier to deal with when you start replacing parts.

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Anyone have info as to where i can get vfc sr16 models in Ottawa? Was at OPS yesterday and they only carry the G&G


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(09-15-2016 11:34 AM)Jamilism Wrote:  Anyone have info as to where i can get vfc sr16 models in Ottawa? Was at OPS yesterday and they only carry the G&G


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I don't believe any stores in the area sell VFC. You'll mostly find G&G, Valken, Ares, Elite force. Toronto Airsoft carries VFC if you want to order new from elsewhere. You might be able to find local used VFC as well.
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uppercanada tactical sells vfc.

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OPS told me they are on the process of getting some in. Wasnt sure when.

I dont tdept and tairsoft have them but i wanna see them in person hold them before putting down 500 om a gun.

What are your thoughts on G&G? OPS seems to think ppl in Ottawa prefer them. He wasnt an airsoft specialist (more into paintball) but he said they were good starter guns.


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G&g is a greT company and there are a lot of players in the area that run them. G&g makes guns from the low end to the higher end

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My personal thoughts are that I don't like higher end g&gs, their toptech line has a proprietary gearbox shell with the pneumatic blowback. If you want the bolt plate to move I suppose it's good, but the shells are weak at the front. Their v2 shells are also weak at the front, even with reinforcement with sorbo pads on the cylinder head, they've been known to crack. The toptech shell is similar in terms of strength, the issue with them is time it takes to disassemble and reassemble, plus the blowback system being parasitic on the main cylinder to power the bolt mechanism, which can make for odd fluctuation in fps if something clogs up or doesn't move in the bolt system. Most people end up blocking the valve that saps the air to disable the system.

Things break in airsoft guns, it's unavoidable, more things means more things with their own roll of the dice on imploding every time you pull the trigger.

Their basic combat machines are great for starter guns, they'll last a while before the piston strips or the gearbox cracks. They take replacement parts well though, which is why they are great starter guns for the price. You can upgrade them to shoot just as well as any higher end gun, but just have to deal with whatever it is that makes them cheaper (this applies to most other brands on the market)

In the end, you can buy what you like as long as you go into it knowing what to expect. I have a different set of criteria when gun shopping because I'm looking at it from the point of view of upgrading it. Any new gun I get is gutted and rebuilt out of the box, I don't use a factory gun. I assess the gun on the ability to take the upgrades I want with least hassle, which sometimes can mean dremeling body, gearbox, new parts, etc to make them fit and having to mess with filing, sanding or whatever to get parts to fit better for better performance. For those who bring their guns to me for that service, it can save them hours in labor costs since most of those parts are drop in and go without any sand paper or dremel bits coming out. My first criteria is always about maintenance/upgrades. Second criteria is quality of the gun chassis itself, is the casting high quality, does the furniture not rattle on it, is stuff forced on or glued on in assembly or will it come apart when it needs to, etc.

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